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	<title>Comments on: Kevin Hoover – Arcata&#8217;s Bicyclists Must Step Up To Safety – March 1, 2011</title>
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		<title>By: kevpod</title>
		<link>http://www.arcataeye.com/2011/03/kevin-hoover-%e2%80%93-arcatas-bicyclists-must-step-up-to-safety-%e2%80%93-march-1-2011/comment-page-1/#comment-26833</link>
		<dc:creator>kevpod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Mar 2011 18:58:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[By the way, the bicyclist who blew the stop sign in 11th Street, hit a car and was rushed off to the hospital was a teenage girl. A young person whose life may never be the same. 

Would cultivating a culture of bicyclist safety and responsibility have helped her? We will never know.

Since it&#039;s not always the car&#039;s fault, why does Green Wheels only talk about collisions when the auto driver is at fault? The point is, that&#039;s only part of the puzzle. The bicyclist is just as injured either way.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, the bicyclist who blew the stop sign in 11th Street, hit a car and was rushed off to the hospital was a teenage girl. A young person whose life may never be the same. </p>
<p>Would cultivating a culture of bicyclist safety and responsibility have helped her? We will never know.</p>
<p>Since it&#8217;s not always the car&#8217;s fault, why does Green Wheels only talk about collisions when the auto driver is at fault? The point is, that&#8217;s only part of the puzzle. The bicyclist is just as injured either way.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Sailors</title>
		<link>http://www.arcataeye.com/2011/03/kevin-hoover-%e2%80%93-arcatas-bicyclists-must-step-up-to-safety-%e2%80%93-march-1-2011/comment-page-1/#comment-26828</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Sailors</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Mar 2011 18:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Government is run by those that show up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Government is run by those that show up.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Sailors</title>
		<link>http://www.arcataeye.com/2011/03/kevin-hoover-%e2%80%93-arcatas-bicyclists-must-step-up-to-safety-%e2%80%93-march-1-2011/comment-page-1/#comment-26827</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Sailors</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Mar 2011 18:21:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kev,
Spot on!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kev,<br />
Spot on!</p>
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		<title>By: kevpod</title>
		<link>http://www.arcataeye.com/2011/03/kevin-hoover-%e2%80%93-arcatas-bicyclists-must-step-up-to-safety-%e2%80%93-march-1-2011/comment-page-1/#comment-26825</link>
		<dc:creator>kevpod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Mar 2011 18:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If placing garments on handlebars turns out to be potentially lethal, as proven by that accident, it seems like it&#039;s a good idea to warn people against that, does it not?

Getting &quot;indignant and preachy&quot; probably wouldn&#039;t be helpful to reckless drivers and bicyclists. Making clear the consequences of reckless and unsafe practices might. In the case of Green Wheels, we just don&#039;t know yet whether that would help because it doesn&#039;t use its position of prominence and influence to avert self-inflicted casualties by bicyclists. It focuses on lobbying for improvements and telling us over and over again that cars suck and are killing the planet, which we KNOW. 

That space might be better used to instill some semblance of safe riding practices into the more feral riders. In the largest sense, GW, AAA and other advocacy groups ought to embrace the full range of issues related to their preferred mode of transportation. Or at least show up at the Transportation Safety Committee meeting the week after another bicyclist gets a head injury.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If placing garments on handlebars turns out to be potentially lethal, as proven by that accident, it seems like it&#8217;s a good idea to warn people against that, does it not?</p>
<p>Getting &#8220;indignant and preachy&#8221; probably wouldn&#8217;t be helpful to reckless drivers and bicyclists. Making clear the consequences of reckless and unsafe practices might. In the case of Green Wheels, we just don&#8217;t know yet whether that would help because it doesn&#8217;t use its position of prominence and influence to avert self-inflicted casualties by bicyclists. It focuses on lobbying for improvements and telling us over and over again that cars suck and are killing the planet, which we KNOW. </p>
<p>That space might be better used to instill some semblance of safe riding practices into the more feral riders. In the largest sense, GW, AAA and other advocacy groups ought to embrace the full range of issues related to their preferred mode of transportation. Or at least show up at the Transportation Safety Committee meeting the week after another bicyclist gets a head injury.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve A</title>
		<link>http://www.arcataeye.com/2011/03/kevin-hoover-%e2%80%93-arcatas-bicyclists-must-step-up-to-safety-%e2%80%93-march-1-2011/comment-page-1/#comment-26824</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Mar 2011 17:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m confused about the point of this article. I&#039;ve taken four different courses on safe bike riding and none of them ever felt it necessary to warn me about not draping a shirt over my handlebars. Is the bicycling community supposed to get into an uproar when a person on a bike does something incredibly stupid? I guess I feel BETTER when so-called bike advocates don&#039;t beat the &quot;victim drum&quot; when people get themselves hurt when they casually run stopsigns or ride around in the dark without lights. In case nobody noticed, BOTH of those actions are illegal.

Does the AAA get indignant and preachy when a drunk illegally goes down a freeway the wrong way and kills people? It is not the job of AAA to &quot;try and civilize the more feral motoring abusers.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m confused about the point of this article. I&#8217;ve taken four different courses on safe bike riding and none of them ever felt it necessary to warn me about not draping a shirt over my handlebars. Is the bicycling community supposed to get into an uproar when a person on a bike does something incredibly stupid? I guess I feel BETTER when so-called bike advocates don&#8217;t beat the &#8220;victim drum&#8221; when people get themselves hurt when they casually run stopsigns or ride around in the dark without lights. In case nobody noticed, BOTH of those actions are illegal.</p>
<p>Does the AAA get indignant and preachy when a drunk illegally goes down a freeway the wrong way and kills people? It is not the job of AAA to &#8220;try and civilize the more feral motoring abusers.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: kevpod</title>
		<link>http://www.arcataeye.com/2011/03/kevin-hoover-%e2%80%93-arcatas-bicyclists-must-step-up-to-safety-%e2%80%93-march-1-2011/comment-page-1/#comment-26553</link>
		<dc:creator>kevpod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Mar 2011 21:20:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And what&#039;s this about &quot;imaginary&quot; laws? Again, that exemplifies the arrogant-biker attitude that the law doesn&#039;t apply to them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And what&#8217;s this about &#8220;imaginary&#8221; laws? Again, that exemplifies the arrogant-biker attitude that the law doesn&#8217;t apply to them.</p>
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		<title>By: kevpod</title>
		<link>http://www.arcataeye.com/2011/03/kevin-hoover-%e2%80%93-arcatas-bicyclists-must-step-up-to-safety-%e2%80%93-march-1-2011/comment-page-1/#comment-26547</link>
		<dc:creator>kevpod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Mar 2011 20:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Arcata Eye has documented all the bike accidents that we know of, vehicle-related and otherwise.

Yes, the cars drive suckily, and we never fail to point that out in the news and Police Log, including in the column you mention. The point, though, was that the bike advocacy groups – and you, apparently – use cars as the bogey man while willfully ignoring the excesses of the bicycle community. The bike advocates give every indication of wanting all the goodies and little to none of the responsibility.

This kind of post only affirms what I was alluding to – the simpleton Bikes Can Do No Wrong mentality that feeds the alienation and hostility between the two user groups.

As a bicyclist, I support the bike groups’ advocacy. I just think that for everyone’s good, they should use their influence to try and civilize the more feral bike abusers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Arcata Eye has documented all the bike accidents that we know of, vehicle-related and otherwise.</p>
<p>Yes, the cars drive suckily, and we never fail to point that out in the news and Police Log, including in the column you mention. The point, though, was that the bike advocacy groups – and you, apparently – use cars as the bogey man while willfully ignoring the excesses of the bicycle community. The bike advocates give every indication of wanting all the goodies and little to none of the responsibility.</p>
<p>This kind of post only affirms what I was alluding to – the simpleton Bikes Can Do No Wrong mentality that feeds the alienation and hostility between the two user groups.</p>
<p>As a bicyclist, I support the bike groups’ advocacy. I just think that for everyone’s good, they should use their influence to try and civilize the more feral bike abusers.</p>
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		<title>By: Getting tired, and the Feed &#124; Witch on a Bicycle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Getting tired, and the Feed &#124; Witch on a Bicycle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Mar 2011 20:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] of people getting it wrong&#8230; Kevin Hoover – Arcata’s Bicyclists Must Step Up To Safety – March 1, 2011 The only wreck he actually documents as opposed to just mentioning in passing, is a 2009 one where [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of people getting it wrong&#8230; Kevin Hoover – Arcata’s Bicyclists Must Step Up To Safety – March 1, 2011 The only wreck he actually documents as opposed to just mentioning in passing, is a 2009 one where [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Sailors</title>
		<link>http://www.arcataeye.com/2011/03/kevin-hoover-%e2%80%93-arcatas-bicyclists-must-step-up-to-safety-%e2%80%93-march-1-2011/comment-page-1/#comment-26467</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Sailors</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Mar 2011 21:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Does anyone know if a seat is open on the Transportation Safety Committee?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone know if a seat is open on the Transportation Safety Committee?</p>
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