Winning Dirty – The Goatbusters Defeated A Nightmare Of Their Own Imagining – June 24, 2011

Friday, June 24, 2011

June 13 at Bloomfield School, the Foster Avenue goat dairy’s first and last public discussion. KLH | Eye

Kevin L. Hoover

Eye Editor

The premature collapse of Cypress Grove Chevre’s (CGC) goat dairy project is regrettable, even shameful for Arcata on several levels. Experiencing it was like watching a slow-motion car accident, just not slow enough for reason or reflection to intervene.

We didn’t follow the script on this one. We in Humboldt have a routine for processing land use proposals which basically involves milking it for whatever fuel it can add to the culture wars. But this controversy was over almost before it started.

Two things any land use proposal deserves are fact-finding and a public decisionmaking process. This project didn’t get either.

CGC laid the groundwork for the confusion and panic that beset the neighborhood by telling just a few neighbors about the project and then sending surveyors out to mill around at the site. Naturally, this only aroused curiosity. Then human nature kicked in, with neighbors filling in the many blanks with their worst fears –  odor, insects, traffic, noise and so on.

This same neighborhood resisted the egregious Creek Side Homes subdivision on the Bottoms throughout the ’00s, and the citizens’ organizational machinery was still in place to meet this big change to the area. Unfortunately, the neighbors also resurrected the same assumptions of Creek Side-level destruction, which simply didn’t apply to the goat dairy proposal.

Once the neighborhood mobilized, with flyers and websites loaded with dark assumptions and a general tenor of non-neighborly meanness, CGC held its belated Open House event. But by then the residents had firmed up their opposition, so much so that nothing was going to sway them, particularly mere information.

It’s really great that Arcata will rise up against inappropriate developments. Doing so stopped ill-conceived projects like Creek Side Homes, the similar Janes Creek West, and Humboldt State’s original big, dumb Behavioral and Social Sciences Building.

It’s too bad, though, that even reasonable developments are automatically cast as destructive. Worse that a pack mentality set in which made excesses of behavior seem permissible. That happened in this case, for example, when some neighbors clung to falsehoods: that the goats’ waste would be liquefied and sprayed on the pasture; that more big trucks would ply Q Street; that clouds of ammonia would rise from the barn; that antibiotic waste would be funneled into Janes Creek; etc.

At the Monday meeting, neighbors voiced perfectly reasonable concerns about jumbo STAA trucks eventually rumbling down Q Street. But even after being shown the bright red line that delineated the truck route as being K Street to 17th Street – entirely skirting residential Q Street – a few attendees looked, listened and continued to complain that the trucks would rattle their homes. No, not even close.

What is the point of “dialogue” when, halfway through the company’s first presentation, an attendee pipes up with “We will oppose you all the way?” If that’s the case, then facts are truly optional and why did we bother with a meeting? The opponents were more comfortable with the damning hearsay they made up than factual information that negated or ameliorated it.

This is Arcata, a university town. We like ideas, critical thinking and thoughtfulness… right? In practice, when there’s anything resembling controversy, no, we do not. We embrace hearsay and folklore, then stick our fingers in our ears and holler, “YadayadayadaIcan’thearyou!” at voices that challenge our assumptions.

Here we had a company willing to invest $3 million in a dairy facility with mitigations based on proven technology on a parcel of land zoned for that very purpose. (With up to double that figure designated for upgrades to the existing facility to accommodate the new, hyperlocal milk source, plus other improvements.)

Would CGC or Emmi have been so foolish as to cheap out on odor and pathogen containment when those things are so easily remediated, and jeopardize the entire multimillion-dollar investment?

The answer is no. Whatever CGC/EMMI are, they are not penny-foolish.

The new facility would have been a world-class model of humane, ethical and environmentally responsible dairying, right here in Arcata.

With all we do to attract business and investment, we don’t know what to do when a big, fat offer falls into our laps. CGC had the cash, the plans, and wasn’t asking for any special favors like tax breaks. Counties in other areas literally give away the farm to provide a location and appealing tax climate for a new industrial facility. We can’t even listen through a presentation about one without yelling at the representatives.

The Taking Up Space Award

The Hall of Blame begins with two elected leaders who could have offered some helpful direction for this project, located on county land bordering Arcata, but sat on their hands.

Third District Supervisor Mark Lovelace attended the fateful Monday meeting. Deploying only bland platitudes, he said he needed to get “more input” before offering an opinion. “The fact that they’re [CGC] holding a community meeting is pretty great,” Lovelace said. “It’s a great start.”

That’s not going to anger anyone, or lose any votes. But was the meeting “great?” If things like brushing your teeth and stopping at stop signs are “great,” well, yes. Actually though, those things, like communication with neighbors, are what you do. They’re baseline responsibilities, not “great.”

Asked her view before the Monday meeting, Mayor Susan Ornelas responded with an unfocused ramble to the effect that the goat dairy could be good but might be bad:

“This is a difficult situation, as the dairy is principally permitted, but with the proposed density, I am surprised that the County doesn’t think it needs a conditional use permit… The proof will be in the management… Truthfully, I will need to wait and see for myself how the system works.”

I endorsed Mark (who saved the Sunny Brae Forest) and Susan (an agrarian oracle) for the offices they now hold based on the bold leadership they promised to provide, based on their earlier accomplishments.

Do you see any leadership anywhere above? No, only nervous timidity, not wanting to upset anyone or erode support, stating only the obvious and providing zero direction.

A leader might have said, “This project is a prima facie inappropriate intrusion on a neighborhood. Let’s see about relocating it, updating the zoning and finding alternative uses for the land.” And then they’d really do that. Leadership.

Better yet, they might have said, “This is an interesting project that could bring employment to Arcata and Humboldt, boost the local dairy industry and give Arcata more worldwide recognition for something other than marijuana. Plus it could bring the Arcata Bottoms’ agricultural legacy to life in an eco-smart 21st century way. Let’s find out if we can make it work for everyone.”

Anything other than the mincing equivocations we got, following by annoying expressions of regret for the death of a project that their very passivity helped bring about.

The Short Memory Award

It was surprising to see Iverson Avenue resident Lee Sobo, whose wonderful Naan of the Above business (which he co-owns) just went through a grueling regulatory escapade with the City, forget everything he experienced in terms of fair play and process.

Before the CGC project’s design or scale were verified, or any approval process had been started, Sobo presented assumptions as fact, sent out e-mails laden with rabble-rousing misinformation and established websites emblazoned with a malicious parody logo that skewered Cypress Grove, our acclaimed local manufacturer, as “MILKING THE ENVIRONMENT AND COMMUNITY.”

That’s hard to see. Even harder is how not everyone loves Naan of the Above and its cheery yellow tents. Those who for whatever reason don’t could easily have distorted its logo into something ugly, and could have heaped false accusations on the business prior to the public process. But the skeptics reserved their quibbles for the fair public hearing.

That process resulted in rules and mitigations that fully addressed the concerns. But astoundingly, Mr. Sobo chose not to indulge Cypress Grove with the same consideration to which he was treated.

The Off The Rails Award

This goes to Foster Avenue resident Sean Armstrong, who burned with a hard, gemlike flame over this issue.

Armstrong, during his employ with Danco Builders, was a persistent advocate for Creek Side Homes, a sprawling, 151-unit, 1,500-vehicles-per-day subdivision on the other side of Foster Avenue from the CGC project. By some unfathomable logic, that was a positive for the vast pastureland Bottoms, while a goat dairy is not.

If that’s his opinion, fine. What’s not fine is squealing like a set of worn-out brakes at a public meeting, yelling non sequiturs about E. coli and salmonella just to instill fear, then not listening to the CGC reps’ responses before blurting out more scare terms.

Most beastly was Armstrong’s tailing CGC founder Mary Keehn out to her car after the meeting was over, braying, “You are going to kill my babies! How can you do something like this! You call yourself a good neighbor?” Towering over this retirement-age woman and gesturing wildly, the aggression was so inappropriate that other CGC employees stayed with Keehn in case this bozo lost his last remaining vestiges of self-control. You really couldn’t tell where the boundary breakdown was going to end.

Keehn was able to load her trunk, get into her car and get away from the near-hysterical raver. But here’s the twist: Armstrong is now a City of Arcata employee, working in the Community Development department on redevelopment projects.

Once CGC establishes its goat dairy milk supply in a more rational and less hostile community, it will be submitting plans to the City to upgrade its Arcata facility. Let’s hope the project isn’t assigned to someone who thinks the company tried to kill his kids with poop.

During the ill-fated Monday presentation, the company said that the project could be reshaped and the buildings moved to address the neighbors’  concerns. But that wasn’t good enough – they would be satisfied only with total extermination.

Coincidentally, the county General Plan Update is underway and dealing with the Open Space Element. I asked the goat dairy opponents if they had participated in the GPU to protect this ag-zoned land from being used for ag, as they suddenly desired. Since the response was crickets, I suspect the answer is no. Better to wait for someone to come in with a project designed for the zoned use, then scream about E. coli and “shit tsunamis.”

Opponents of Cypress Grove Chevre’s (CGC) goat dairy on the Arcata Bottom weren’t what you might call “magnanimous in victory,” continuing with snide derision of the company even after they had defeated the proposed goat dairy by brandishing a distorted CGC logo, with “MILKING THE ENVIRONMENT” and “MILKING THE COMMUNITY.” KLH | Eye

 

 

The No Good Deed Goes Unpunished Award

Cypress Grove Chevre is a company that has brought nothing but benefit and pride (and incredible cheese) to Arcata. In one week, it became a community-sucking, Earth-killing monster? How convenient – and what a coincidence!

What does it say about us that we are willing to instantly and viciously turn on longtime, close community members over an issue we don’t even have complete information about?

The Ambush Foiling Award

Mary Keehn handily wins this one. For once, when someone asked an ambush question, the would-be victim was able to reply knowledgeably and utterly neutralize the parry. That occurred when Armstrong asked Keehn if she knew what the effects of E. coli infection are. She did, and began to recite them. Oops. That wasn’t supposed to happen. This sent Armstrong into his spiral of interruption, and may have fed his later parking lot frenzy.

This being the real world, there was an esprit de l’escalier moment though. If only Keehn had followed up by asking Armstrong whether he had ever visited the kind of Dutch goat dairy being proposed. But pointed rejoinders aren’t her style.

The Blatant Duplicity Award

The opponents were selling two contradictory ideas, which they toggled between based on the expediency of the moment:

• CGC is going to “ram this project through” without public hearings, as it is principally permitted on the ag-zoned Gilardoni Property.

or

• CGC will never succeed in getting the project approved because it is so fatally flawed.

Which is it, guys? That’s just one example.

One of the goatbusters told me later that county planners and health officials were secretly relieved that the project had been halted, as they didn’t want a battle over a project that would never have been approved. Odd that these unknown, unnamed officials already knew what the project was, since no proposal was ever submitted and the company was saying right up to the end that everything about it was subject to change in response to the neighbors’ concerns. All these naysaying officials could have had to evaluate the project with were the basic outlines proposed by CGC and the overlay of fiction the opponents fogged the picture with.

Another particularly dunderheaded element of the opposition was the invocation of the terms “industrial agriculture” and “corporation” as though they are automatic negatives. They even started calling Cypress Grove “EMMI,” the name of the Swiss company (majority owned by farmer cooperatives) that bought CGC last year, because that name sounds more monolithic and scary, I guess.

Industry has been part of the Arcata Bottom since the 1800s. Cypress Grove was a corporation before its purchase by Emmi.

And of course, it wouldn’t be an All-American Controversy if someone hadn’t lied about lying. Among the mutterings at the Bloomfield meeting and at the initial front gate protest were that CGC “lied to the priest.” This refers to CGC Manager Pam Dressler’s initial visit to St. Mary’s Church, allegedly misrepresenting the project to Father Gerard Gormley. CGC maintains that Dressler never spoke to Rev. Gormley – confirmed by the church secretary who received the CGC visitors. “Father Gormley was out of town when they came by,” she told me.

She said CGC called back weeks later to see if it could use Leavey Hall at adjoining St. Mary’s School for the fateful Monday meeting, but the hall was being re-roofed and was out of commission. Too bad; meeting in a facility attached to a house of worship might – might – have tempered some of the excessive behavior.

One audience member at the Monday meeting left behind notes listing talking points, including the oft-mentioned falsehood that CGC “lied to the priest.”

 

 

The One Damn Thing After Another Award

Carol McFarland and Don Nielsen have been through hell over the past several years.

When Creek Side Homes was in play, they physically moved their house back away from Foster Avenue to give themselves a buffer from that impending disaster.

Then their house renovation was botched by an incompetent contractor. They had just gotten a settlement and had their home properly restored, and now this. However you feel about the goat dairy, the irreducible fact is that the house relocation would actually have moved them closer to the project’s parking lot and large main structure.

And yet, there is a greater good. A world-class dairy on the Arcata Bottom would have been a real jewel for Arcata. For Carol and Don, it couldn’t approach the ruinous effects of a Creek Side Homes or Janes Creek West. And it would have been dwarfed by the mammoth, sprawling Sun Valley Floral Farms complex just down the way.

Many Arcata Bottom residents live harmoniously in similar proximity to animal-filled pastures, big barns, even abattoirs and other industrial facilities. The impact factor for this project was way overrated.

In the rush and haste of mounting opposition, Don and Carol found themselves repeating some of the misinformation their overzealous neighbors were trafficking in. Unlike many of them, this deeply disturbs Carol, who has been trying to mend fences with CGC. In fact, she’s the only person who I’ve heard express remorse for the smears against this fine, local company.

Now that the CGC proposal has been withdrawn, Carol vows to stick to gardening and reading classic literature, and she and Don surely deserve all the tranquility and abundant natural splendor the Arcata Bottom can provide.

The Due Diligence Award

In this and virtually every land use controversy that occurs in Arcata and environs, Lisa Brown is always the calm voice doing the heavy lifting of  fact-checking and pushing for an orderly methodology. Why it falls on this woman every time to complete the developers’ sometimes-patchy research, give productive direction to citizens and prompt regulators to check all the required boxes is not clear, but we’re fortunate that there is someone around to elevate the dialogue.

At the last City Council meeting, Lisa tried to redirect the momentum over this issue in a productive direction with designation of the Gilardoni property as a greenbelt/farming incubator. How that would come about is not clear, but it sounds like an auspicious idea.

Yet there’s already an ill portent suggesting it won’t happen, since it will take pro-active rather than crisis-driven motivation. Now that the largely imaginary goat threat has dissipated, what is the neighbors’ motivation to participate constructively? During the various discussions, several said they’d help CGC find a different location for the goat dairy. But in the nearly two weeks since the Gilardoni proposal was pulled, not a single neighbor has called the company with any suggestions.

Note too that the Arcata Chamber of Commerce was entirely missing in action from this debacle.

The Taking My Ball And Going Home Award

To Cypress Grove Chevre, for pulling the plug prematurely. On the other hand, with opponents having demonstrated that they have no standards for principled opposition and the situation declining rapidly, who needs this kind of abuse? If Arcata doesn’t want this $3 million sugar plum, someone else will gladly take it.

What have we learned?

This has been an inadvertant case study for potential investors in Arcata and Humboldt County. What have we learned?

If you’re a company looking to inject millions into Arcata with a world-class development, here are some tips:

• Don’t bother with the new whiz-bang online GIS systems that show you the zoning for a project site, because that’s irrelevant. Even zoned uses may be denounced as inappropriate.

After the triumphant goatbusters had high-fived and hugged over vanquishing the nightmare scenario they had conjured, they left this goatsourced calling card in CGC’s driveway. It probably seemed like a good idea at the time – especially for the goat. KLH | Eye

• Any public hearing you schedule may descend into barbarity. Your company representatives may be personally accused of child-killing, physically pursued, screamed at and hounded off the site by an off-duty City of Arcata Community Development employee.

• Don’t look to our political “leaders” for any interest in or facilitation of your job-creating investment. They’re focused on avoiding controversy. But once the project dies, expect moving expressions of disappointment.

The Do What I Scream, Not What I Poo Award

For a comic capper, Armstrong and his wife brought one of their adorable goats to the protest the day after the meeting, at which they found out the project had been canceled.

And when they left, there on the sidewalk outside CGC’s front gate was a generous smattering of the dreaded goat poop, because, you know, it’s so dangerous.

 

 

 

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39 Responses to “Winning Dirty – The Goatbusters Defeated A Nightmare Of Their Own Imagining – June 24, 2011”

  1. Well written, biting and echoing the feeling of a lot of us from other parts of Humboldt. Let’s hope the next place Cypress Grove chooses learns from this experience (and this piece.)

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  2. tra

    You gotta love it when Lovelace’s Third District constituents, so concerned about not losing agricultural land to residential development when they’re talking about someone building a single house on a several-hundred-acre rural parcel (which somehow magically is assumed to take the whole parcel “out of production” for ag or timber), are just horrified when someone proposes an actual working dairy be located on the prime agricultural land that happens to be adjacent to the suburban sprawl homes they live in.

    Apparently their idea of agriculture is Old McDonald’s Farm, with a couple of chickens, a couple of cows, a couple of ducks, a white picket fence, a red barn and a picturesque white silo. With a hip-hyp here and a hip-hyp there, here a hip, there a hyp, everywhere a hypocrite.

    Bottom line: they want their “viewshed,” and I guess now their “olfactoryshed” to remain untouched. Dairy smells are for Ferndale, dense development is for Ridgewood, and the Arcata Bottoms are there for the aesthetic pleasure of those privileged few lucky enough to have homes built on the formerly productive ag land at the edge of town.

    #32480
  3. rockhouse

    What similarities and differences are there with this ordeal and the proposed LNG plant public meetings from the ’00s?

    #32494
  4. sarah

    Thank you so much for this. It was needed…

    #32499
  5. lisa

    So, Carol McFarland, you are trying to mend you relationship with CG?
    This article you wrote for Times Standard tells another story:

    http://www.times-standard.com/ci_18229214?IADID=Search-www.times-standard.com-www.times-standard.com

    “… a project that threatens to blight an entire neighborhood and bring financial hardship to so many residents and homeowners.

    #32501
  6. Al

    kevin,

    CORRECTION.

    Lee Sobo is ONE of the owners of naan of the above. He does not represent the face and views of naan of the above, nor does he represent the viewpoints of the other owners. He was acting as a HOME owner in the neighborhood that he lives in. I would appreciate that correction being made.

    #32509
  7. Ian Ray

    Al, when you posted inflammatory comments on Lee’s facebook fan page titled “Stop the Industrial Dairy in Arcata,” were you also not representing the views of Naan of Above?

    #32511
  8. Alissa, I added that he’s a co-owner. As far whom he represents, I made no claims about that, but your comment covers it pretty well. Thanks.

    #32514
  9. Al

    I don’t think they were inflammatory. I think they were pretty calm. I remained fairly neutral on the issue and in the end, after reading all possible information, was leaning towards support of the project.

    #32515
  10. All I remember Alissa saying was that it was a complicated situation.

    #32516
  11. Ian Ray

    I saved the page with comments open before the page was deleted. If Alissa had a change of heart, it hasn’t been expressed until now. I completely respect a change in position.

    #32518
  12. Scott

    Lisa- read Carol & Don’s story. “In the rush and haste of mounting opposition, Don and Carol found themselves repeating some of the misinformation their overzealous neighbors were trafficking in.” That article you quote is from June 8th. The above quote explains the letter. Give her a break! Let it go.

    #32526
  13. lisa

    Scott, she repeated her concerns again in todays article where she titled the project “Goatzilla”. She is still spewing misinformation

    #32528
  14. If you’re referring to the Eye column, Carol didn’t write the headline. “Goatzilla” was your editor’s coinage.

    Editors write the headlines, and the writers often disapprove.

    #32529
  15. What a damned shame. I for one was looking forward to the goat farm. So, why is it that neighbor complaints stopped this and neighborhood complaints about the coming homeless shelter are ignored? Oh yeah, the goat farm was private, and the homeless shelter is PUBLIC. Complaints only work on private companies, the government couldn’t care less if we like /want it.

    #32538
  16. Disgusted

    Right on Kevin … this is a sad tale … and it seems the poop coming out of the opponent’s goat tail is not healthy goat poop. Looks more like worm infested diarrhea, than lovely healthy marbles. The neighbors should fear for their children! Maybe someone should look into their animal husbandry practices.

    #32544
  17. The City held a large, well-attended public hearing over the Arcata Crossing project. The takeaway was that the neighborhood would accept the transitional shelter if the City improved the area’s pedestrian access and upgraded Rotary Park.

    #32545
  18. Hum+

    Al

    Regarding your comments, the most vivid and vicious was this one “How much goat cheese does the world need?” Then something to the effect that if the quality of life in a neighborhood was reduced due to an increase in a product, what was more important?

    Were you representing Al the person or Al the business manager/owner, or Al the daughter of Lee Sobo?

    When the value of ethics are at stake, why do you employ the backsliding ploy of conditional semantics?

    A friend of mine, from the Bay Area, who was following the whole debacle said: “Particularly disturbing is the Alissa with the Hindu food truck that you all went to bat for and then turned on you, she could have just shut up if she was against the project, but she actually went on the offensive”

    Enough said and hopefully a communal and business lesson well learned…?!

    #32559
  19. Kev,
    Have you see Rotary Park lately? No improvements, dog waste and loose dogs, no trash cans, drug remnants (baggies and meth pipes), beer cans and bottles. It is the closest playground to my house and we clean it out ourselves.

    #32561
  20. Dwain Goforth

    Very good column Kevin. Keep telling it like it is.

    #32572
  21. Mark Lovelace was more active behind the scenes that I realized. Here’s something he posted on Genevieve Schmidt’s Facebook page:

    “Had I known the first meeting would be the last, I likely would have spoken up more. Perhaps it might have made a difference. Perhaps not.

    As is, I had only heard of the project for the first time a week before. In that short time I had corresponded with a number of neighbors about their concerns. I had a number of conversations with various County staff regarding their determination that the facility was principally permitted. I had met with Mary and others from Cypress Grove to learn more about the project and to discuss the necessity of public outreach to help the community better understand the project and to address their concerns.

    I spent over an hour exploring the perimeter of the property, considering its impact from St. Mary’s, Coastal Grove School, R St, Q St, Iverson and Foster Ave, and taking lots of pictures of the property from every location. I spent time learning about goats, CAFO’s and manure management. For a while there, the single most important piece of information I needed to know was how many pounds of waste one goat would create per day.

    At the community meeting, I pointed out to the community members that they had more opportunity for dialogue there than they would ever get in a formal hearing in front of the Planning Commission. I also asked Mary if she was interested in suggestions about how to orient the structures on the property and other ways to reduce the impact to the neighbors, in the hope that it might steer the meeting in a more constructive direction. Unfortunately the meeting was simply not conducive to that kind of input, even though that’s precisely what Cypress Grove had been hoping for. After the meeting was over, I continued to talk to people outside the school until almost 10:00. I left that night with the hope that a more structured follow-up meeting might produce some dialogue and constructive input.

    The next day I was doing more work on this issue when I received the press release from Cypress Grove that they had decided not to go forward with the project at that location. I called Bob McCall and expressed both my appreciation for their responsiveness to the community’s concerns and my great disappointment that the community wasn’t willing to give their project a fair shot. I also pledged to them that I would be willing to work with them to help find another location and to work with the neighboring community when they did.”

    #32573
  22. Sharon Letts

    Kevin, I agree with you on this one. The Arcata Bottom is historically agricultural land. To change that is a shameful act in today’s climate of “keeping it local.” I thought the “not in my back yard” haters were elsewhere.

    #32574
  23. It’s a fascinating story in terms of human behavior. While the project was formidable in size and would have changed the present character of the neighborhood, the main things the neighbors were objecting to simply do not exist. I would characterize the neighbors as acting more out of fear than hate.

    The neighbors systematically constructed a Frankenstein monster made of mountains of goat poop, ammonia, E. coli, giant trucks, feedlots and corporate misbehavior, then stormed the castle to kill the unruly creation they themselves had conjured.

    Just a few blocks away, in the Windsong and Greenview neighborhoods, residents live just over the fence from hundreds of cows, who moo and poop constantly with no waste disposal plan. No one complains. Many other Arcata Bottom residents live as close or closer to much larger facilities than the proposed goat dairy, harmoniously and with no problems that I know of.

    It is my belief that the impacts were manageable and outweighed the change that the neighborhood would have experienced. The Iverson residents, had they listened and enumerated the mitigations they needed, would have found the dairy perfectly acceptable as a neighbor and over time, a non-issue.

    #32576
  24. tyrone

    This is what happens when the inmates are running the asylum; the crazy ones get to decide what happens. Go Arcata!! You are becoming the joke of the west coast.

    #32577
  25. Ian Ray

    “Just a few blocks away, in the Windsong and Greenview neighborhoods, residents live just over the fence from hundreds of cows”

    The herd density near Windsong
    http://goo.gl/maps/EI7s

    Example feedlot density in SJV
    http://goo.gl/maps/cM51

    Jpeg of an overcrowded feedlot
    http://goo.gl/yJP3x

    Cows are capable of generating more noise and smell than dairy goats. For that matter, dogs are capable of generating more noise and smell than dairy goats.

    #32579
  26. I milked goats for 8 years on Humboldt Hill, and some of that milk went to Cyprus Grove. Goats don’t really smell much! They are clean animals. I challenge anyone to compare goat waste to human waste any day. This whole thing is fear based and stupid.

    #32584
  27. tyrone

    Summerhill Goat Dairy in Hanford is a beautiful operation which is similar in size and management to the proposed facility.
    http://www.summerhilldairy.com/

    Goats do not enjoy being outside in the rain ( who does?) therefore the inside facility is much more important than their pasture.

    They are not cows.
    Their manure is dry pellets and it is almost odorless.
    In order to raise happy healthy productive goats, their facilities and comfort must be the top priority. The type of dairy that will be built will be the best environment for optimum hard health and productivity.
    Goats, like people, do best in a clean dry environment. Summerhill shows the best life and comfort for dairy goats. Go down there and check it out. Unless you know what was going to be proposed, how could anyone object?

    Absolutely was a fear, rumor and propaganda based protest. I hope they put a cow dairy in there. Or pigs.
    I hope the owner now sues those involved for causing the loss of his sale.

    #32586
  28. Ian Ray

    Wildberries and the Co-op sell Summerhill Farms milk.

    #32588
  29. Ian Ray

    Edit: sell Summerhill Goat Dairy milk.

    #32589
  30. Is this approximately what was being considered here?

    #32590
  31. Ian Ray

    Yes, a building like that for the 1,000 Summerhill goats, but the Arcata version would probably be overcast when the picture was taken.

    #32592
  32. Jacqui

    This is so incredibly sad, Arcata. I’m mourning the loss of what could’ve been a sustainable business model to be proud of.

    #32626
  33. Thank you, Kevin, for paying attention to what’s actually going on and holding people’s behavior up in front of themselves and their community. We can vote to impeach, be a safe haven for people avoiding the draft, oppose wars, but still we, Arcata, behave like this? Just using anything we can make up to scare ourselves and our neighbors…The only way to rise above Rush Limbaugh-ism and Karl Rove tactics is to listen, seek information and act with care and concern.

    #32628
  34. Disappointed

    I am deeply disappointed by Sean Armstrong’s behavior here. He has shown poor judgment before, but this really takes the cake. I believe that given his behavior, he is unfit to serve as a City employee on the Community Development staff. He is a good person, but his behavior here is pure NIMBYism, and total hypocrisy. He should be removed from his position, and he should reconsider the way he treats people.

    #32696
  35. Ian Ray

    Bloomfield Acres
    http://library.humboldt.edu/humco/holdings/shuster/Access_Jpg/2001010525.jpg
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  36. I was privileged to have talked to Merle Shuster before he passed away. Chet Spiering too.

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  37. roxana

    Sean Armstrong, what a hippie-crite! “Peace, love and assault retired business owners!”

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  38. anon.r.mous

    Arcata, that’s a crying shame you chased them off.

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  39. [...] My husband and I have lived for 35 years in the Bloomfield subdivision of Arcata. Our backyard abuts the “Gilardoni” pasture, which was the site of the recent Cypress Grove goat controversy. I was dismayed by the personal attacks and trivialization of our neighborhood’s concerns in Kevin Hoover’s June 22, 2011 editorial. [...]

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