Comments on: Halloween Bacchanal Spares McKinley, Disfigures Policeman – November 7, 2012

By: Kevin Hoover

Kevin Hoover — Mon, 12 Nov 2012 19:28:53 +0000

My attitude would be more accurately characterized as one which prioritizes responsibility, attribution and real-world, small-town values. Mr. AR-15 was not any part of a well-armed militia, so the Constitution isn't imperiled. And since I wouldn't hold a conversation with someone wearing a bag over their head, I see no reason to continue to do so here.

By: Law Center to Prevent Gun Confiscations

Law Center to Prevent Gun Confiscations — Mon, 12 Nov 2012 19:21:42 +0000

Kevin Hoover So your attitude is Damn the Bill of Rights & the Constitution, the police may or may not have accomplished something. I decline your invitation…

By: Ian Ray

Ian Ray — Mon, 12 Nov 2012 17:42:34 +0000

While I think open carry is a good thing and that people should be able to tote even loaded weapons like Nevada, there seems something subjectively different about dressing like a Federal agent and carrying an assault rifle to the plaza… That just doesn't seem right. He should be given his firearm back but I don't think the police were totally out of line intervening. If he was just carrying his firearm around in any other situation, I don't think the police would/should have cared at all.

By: Kevin Hoover

Kevin Hoover — Mon, 12 Nov 2012 17:07:06 +0000

My response is simply that APD may have averted a massacre, which may not fit in with your lofty-anonymous theories, but it works for me. Also, unless you can bring yourself to use your name, I invite you direct your wisdom elsewhere.

By: Andrew Isaac

Andrew Isaac — Sun, 11 Nov 2012 14:37:10 +0000

Man comes to a crowded place, on a night where disguises and unusual behavior are condoned carries a real weapon, and real ammunition. Claims he is carrying the weapon in his capacity as a government agent, but apparently cannot explain why the CIA or Secret Service is on the Plaza on Halloween, with a high powered rifle, accompanied by someone wearing body armor. I think APD's judgement was excellent, that the totality of the circumstances created an exigency that justified the seizure of the weapon. I think the individual could have been detained until his claim of being CIA or Secret Service, and of carrying the weapon and ammunition in that capacity was verified. See, for instance (non exhaustive list) Penal Code Sections 148, 148.9, 538.

By: Law Center to Prevent Gun Confiscations

Law Center to Prevent Gun Confiscations — Sun, 11 Nov 2012 04:45:31 +0000

Kevin Hoover, do you value your right to post or say whatever you like? How do you feel about being free from your possessions seized by an agent of our government? Using the Aurora tragedy as an example is disingenuous. The theatres in Colorado were posted “no firearms permitted” in compliance with Colorado law, and law enforcement would have been properly enforcing state law had they prevented James Holmes from entering the facility. In this case, the second amendment is not an issue; the issue is the 4th Amendment. Under California law the police had every right to momentarily detain the gun owner, just long enough to determine that the firearm was indeed unloaded, at that point the contact should have ended and he should have been permitted to go on his way, with his property. He wasn’t arrested, he isn’t accused of any crime, they seized his property because they didn’t like it, which is not an adequate reason to deprive someone of their property, and cause them to incur expense to recover their property…

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By: Kevin Hoover

Kevin Hoover — Sun, 11 Nov 2012 00:46:12 +0000

Mark Sailors Mark, as time goes on, it seems that virtually every Facebook comment you make includes "[blah-blah] is illegal (or incompetent) and should be sued." How about changing it up now and then?

By: Kevin Hoover

Kevin Hoover — Sun, 11 Nov 2012 00:45:37 +0000

Law Center to Prevent Gun Confiscations Please use your human name when posting. Thank you.

I have a question for you and Sailors. Had you been a police officer seeing James Holmes walk into the movie theater in Aurora, Colorado with a weapon, would you have confiscated it or let the 12 people get slaughtered to prove a point?

By: Law Center to Prevent Gun Confiscations

Law Center to Prevent Gun Confiscations — Sat, 10 Nov 2012 17:14:27 +0000

If that is what is necessary, so be it…